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Moving / Dragging Windows Abnormally Slow since a Few Months Ago
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by Guest on 2021/01/25 07:31:51 PM    
Yesterday out of nowhere tixati started doing this to me too (haven't updated for a long time), so I was like "I guess time to update" but it didn't fix it. Any news as to what might be causing this?
by Guest on 2021/01/29 02:40:37 PM    
today I installed tixati on my new computer, ryzen 5900x and 6800 xt, 32gb ram, (good pc). and it is doing this laggy shit when i drag the window. tixati is using 0.1% cpu according to task manager, and then as i move the window i watch that number climb to 5% > 6% etc. didnt happen on old pc 2 days ago. not sure whats up. reading thread, ryzen cpu seems to be common factor
by xerces8 on 2021/02/06 03:26:04 PM    
me too


Just noticed this with a fresh download of tixati 2.81 portable (64 bit windows)

High CPU usage and the Tixati window lags behind when moving it.
For example : I move the mouse to the left and the back to the right.
The Tixati window follows this, but slowly. When I reach the right edge of the screen, the tixati windows is just arrived at the left and then starts to move to the right. It arrives almost an entire second later.

This only happens with tixati, other apps behave normally.


Note that I reinstalled Windows a couple weeks ago, there is barely any 3rd party software installed.

OS: Windows 10 Pro 20H2


Note 2 : a similar problem was with MS Excel about a month ago.  Maybe some strange OS or driver glitch.
by Guest on 2021/03/14 02:45:40 PM    
New computer (Ryzen 5950X, RTX3070, 64GB RAM, NVMe and SATA SSD drives, Logitech G604 mouse) with freshly installed Windows 10, Tixati 2.81.
Tixati window lags horrendously when dragging, only lowering mouse polling rate from 1000 to 125 in the Logitech GHUB app resolves the issue.
by Guest on 2021/03/21 12:32:55 PM    
Same issue using a Logitech G603 Mouse with 500 Mouse polling rate. Lowering the polling rate to 250 or lower, makes the issue disappear.
Win 10, Intel i7 6700K, 32GB RAM, GTX 1080Ti.
No noticable performance jumps when moving the GUI around.
by notaLamer on 2021/03/21 04:29:44 PM    
Hello, I would like to document this once and for all.

Setup:
Windows 7
8 Core, 16 Thread CPU
60 FPS recording using OBS (encode was not bottlenecked)
Theme: Windows Basic (to allow 60 FPS recording)

The file will be available for nearly a year: https://0x0.st/-NCb.mp4
After that: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:bw2kshnqzg5ssr7otakq7k74qyefqx6l&dn=tixati-forumthread-6343-windowscursor_cpu.mp4&xl=9759666&fc=1

Below are the findings captured in the video:
6.25% usage indicates one full core/thread.

Video:
500Hz:
- notepad++:
  * mouse movement: 0.50% peak
  * mouse selection: 3.00% peak
  * window dragging: 3.00% peak

- explorer.exe (desktop background):
  * mouse movement: 0.50% peak
  * mouse selection: 3.20% peak

- calc.exe:
  * mouse movement: 0.60% peak
  * window dragging: 2.60% peak

125Hz:
- notepad++:
  * mouse movement: 0.20% peak
  * mouse selection: 1.70% peak
  * window dragging: 1.20% peak
  * window dragging (including over calc.exe): 2.40% peak

- explorer.exe (desktop background):
  * mouse movement: 0.20% peak (not on video)
  * mouse selection: 2.20% peak (not on video)

- calc.exe:
  * mouse movement: 0.11% peak (not on video)
  * window dragging: 1.35% peak (not on video)
  * window dragging (part of window is outside the virtual view area): 2.60% peak (not on video)

1000Hz:
- notepad++:
  * mouse movement: 0.90% peak
  * mouse selection: 3.90% peak  (not on video)
  * window dragging: 2.45% peak

- explorer.exe (desktop background):
  * mouse movement: 0.70% peak
  * mouse selection: 4.20% peak

- calc.exe:
  * mouse movement: 0.50% peak
  * window dragging: 2.40% peak

Mouse selection explorer.exe, from 125 to 1000 Hz: 1.9x CPU usage
Mouse movement explorer.exe, from 125 to 1000 Hz: 3.5x CPU usage

This goes to show this is a fundamental Win32 API issue. It affects EVERY program, your Windows desktop, the calculator, your browser etc.
From this we can deduct a power-saving tip: reduce the mouse polling rate! especially when on battery power.

For each mouse movement event, that's 1000 times a second at 1000 Hz, an event is fired for apps to process, respond to and update their windows.
I believe programs could work around this 'bug' by practically rate-limiting how often they truthfully update on each mouse event.

You only notice this with Tixati, because its GUI is indeed a bit heavier than usual programs. In addition, as Tixati users have found earlier: one of Windows 10 Updates introduced a regression which led the GUI drawing procedure to be much more resource intensive than before (Windows 7 unaffected).

I have now reduced my own mouse polling rate from 500 Hz to 250 Hz. 1000 Hz was always outright insane, but as proven above, neither is 500 Hz beneficial. 250 Hz appears to be the perfect compromise nowadays.

Users: Tweak your settings, use better Operating Systems that are not Windows.
Tixati Devs: Since Tixati is main-thread dependent, it's ultimately something you'd want to work around :|

PS: Further, I have uncovered two more peculiarities:
1) Dragging the foreground over background windows makes the background windows still respond to the event, consuming CPU even though practically unnecessary
2) Dragging a window such that a part of it is 'outside' the viewable area, skyrockets the CPU usage again, seemingly without a valid reason.

- notaLamer -
by Guest on 2021/05/23 06:32:09 PM    
Just downloaded newest version, are you SERIOUSLY unable to fix this? This is the ONLY program that does this, after the next patch if its still there im changing my torrent program!
by Guest on 2021/06/07 06:35:44 AM    
Happening here too! I've noticed it happening for quite some time now. Saw in here that it had something to do with the polling rate and i can also confirm this to be true, i have a logitech mouse with polling rate set to 1000 and it happens severely. At 500 it happens but barely, and lower then that it doesnt appear to have any effect, however, Tixati is the ONLY app this happens with, so the problem is with Tixati and not the mouse software or hardware.
by Guest on 2021/07/02 06:53:45 AM    
Hi I'm also experiencing this issue.  Moving the window is very laggy on a gtx 3090 on latest windows 10.
by Guest on 2021/07/05 02:28:13 PM    
The window is slow and lags behind when moving.
using v2.43
windows 19042.1052
corsair m65 mouse at 1000hz poling rate.

changed the rate to 125hz and it reduced the lag to almost nothing.
by Guest on 2021/08/13 02:02:14 AM    
Can confirm this problem is also occurring on 2 of my computers.
by Guest on 2021/08/27 11:58:32 PM    
I came here b/c I was experiencing the same issue. I went into the GHub app for my mouse and changed the polling rate (how often your mouse sends information to the computer) to 125 and it's operating fine now. I haven't come across other issues that crop up when changing the polling rate.
by Guest on 2021/10/02 12:02:16 PM    
Same thing here, and Logitech gaming mouse too. Guys, developers, it's very simple thing to fix. Just do it already!
by Guest on 2021/10/02 08:47:59 PM    
why exactly are you moving the windows around so much. I never move mine.
by Guest on 2021/10/21 02:21:36 AM    
"why exactly are you moving the windows around so much. I never move mine."

Engineer detected.

It doesn't matter why.
by Owyn on 2021/11/21 06:31:38 PM    
Just installed portable 2.86-1 x64 bit on my win10
tried to drag the window of my fresh new Tixati with zero torrents and everything... it moves with like 5 sec delay and took 60% of my powerful CPU, great!

yes, my mouse is at 1000 hz obviously
by Guest on 2022/01/30 12:08:20 PM    
2022 still this issue sadly.
Maybe you need some info or logs for finding solution?
by Guest on 2022/03/14 07:22:18 AM    
Just wanted to chime in as well:

Tixati v2.88
Windows 10 21H2
AMD 5800x
32Gb 3600mhz RAM
RTX 3080
Samsung 980 Pro NVMe

Logitech G600 and G502 Lightspeed, new with no software; having the window trail behind my actual mouse movements. I don't think I can change polling rate without additional software. If that is the fix, the additional software might just have to be a different torrent client.
by TX007 on 2022/03/15 12:28:18 PM    
Moving the window fast using the touchpad doesn't cause any lagging. But i haven't tried that with the mouse.
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Tixati v2.88
Windows 7 SP1 32bit
by Guest on 2022/05/07 01:14:21 PM    
Just chiming in to say the issue is still present on windows 10 version in use is the latest (2.89). I know you're working on it, thanks for your hard work^^
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