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Can't understand how to do Cross seed on private trackers

by Guest on 2024/11/26 04:23:21 PM    
Trying to have 2 different torrents in the list pointing to the same file but having different tracker. can't find how to do it
thought renaming the file\job but apparently it renames the root folder ( is it disable-able? )
when dragging new torrent with different tracker it ask if to merge trackers or not, clicking not just nothing happens ( i'd have expect to create a new job with diffrent tracker, couldn't find option for that in options if there is )
and also read that launching a different client. which sorry for being ignorant, i can't find how to do ( same version, not download 0.01 older and launch that ) though its less desirable because i assume it take more resources.

Please help, how do I seed the same torrent on 2 different private trackers without reporting false information to them? ideally in 2 separate jobs so i could turn off one tracker if i desire
by notaLamer on 2024/11/29 02:33:27 PM    
when dragging new torrent with different tracker it ask if to merge trackers
I think this is not possible in Tixati: to have two separate transfers with the same infohash. Since the torrent you attempt to add is identified as a duplicate (same infohash), it asks to merge tracker lists or do nothing.

> that launching a different client
Tixati version 3.12 is now available. There have been many fixes and improvements throughout the program:

   support tixati_local_instance_check.txt in app folder, which allows multiple stand-alone instances to run from separate app folders
I have not tried it, but you would have a separate Tixati2 folder with separate config files etc. to run both instances at once, then point them to the same file/folder for seeding.

Please help, how do I seed the same torrent on 2 different private trackers without reporting false information to them? ideally in 2 separate jobs so i could turn off one tracker if i desire
That's a good question. See, the private tracker proposal http://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0027.html  allows multiple SEPARATE trackers to be present on the torrents' tracker list; the clients are required to strictly separate the peers and not snitch the one swarm to the other. What it doesn't consider at all is the common practice:

1) Each tracker wants its separate ratio/stats. Although, how do you count the ratio if you only downloaded the data from one tracker but then added the other for seeding? I find it funny how the initial Bittorrent specification doesn't even name the units for tracker reporting: "uploaded/downloaded" https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0003.html
I don't know how private trackers handle this, you'll face this too when you add the downloaded files in the second Tixati.

2) How do multiple private trackers given in a list exactly work, including their backup URLs? Was this ever intended for single-client - multiple private swarms for cross-seeding? That's the major question https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0012.html

TLDR: Just use multiple clients or Tixati instances. Create a short batch/shell command file to launch both Tixatis at once, if not auto-starting at boot.
by Guest on 2024/12/06 04:03:32 PM    
I don't think that any torrent client implements per-tracker swarm traffic accounting.

Moreover, it's not always doable. What if peer with address a.b.c.d:xyz is offered by both trackers? You connect to it directly, not “via tracker”. Should its traffic stats be reported to the first tracker? Or the second one? Or both? Or, to be safe, none of them?

So the answer is using multiple clients, each dealing with its own tracker. Unless you have a lot of torrents, they should not waste a lot of memory, but in that case, you can try GUI-less clients. Obviously, you only need a single copy of data files for all of them. Only one of them should be used to download (part of) a torrent at any single time, or they might connect to each other locally, and report shared data as upload to some “non-exiting” downloader (from a tracker's standpoint).

User ratios are a hack on top of the simple public insecure data exchange. Any tracker still seriously counting bytes in 2025 (rounded) is simply extorting direct or indirect donations from novices. There are better options to make people participate in sharing.




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