It seems to me that this forum is more for folks to agree with the poster than help! I have looked at many posts that have response and only 2 actually had a reply that was constructive most were same here or similar problems. Windows 8 seems to be a big problem but can anyone give these folks some help.

Well if windows 8 is the problem, then it might take everyone some time to figure out how to get round all the new annoying microsoft settings. Guess I'll go back to fiddling with own settings to figure out my problem.